(I was also at the 35c3 meeting and I'm happy to see progress on this, thanks Aimee & all.)


On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 19:32, maxigas <maxigas@anargeek.net> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 02 2019, Aljaž Srebrnič wrote:

>> Hi Aimee,
>> 
>> I was at the 35c3 meeting where we discussed the need for a content review:
>>
>> Hi I was there to, I was the person with the LED hat ;-)
>>
>> 2. long term solution - find good long term solutions for keeping the
>> data current and up to date
>>
>> Maybe implement a kind of refresh option, if its abandoned for more
>> then x time automagic set it to 'inactive'
>> 
>> 1st stage - help needed with:
>>
>> b. automatically identifying and flagging dead links on active profiles
>> and marking them as dead links on profiles
>>
>> I can program in php/python but are not an expert in (Semantic) wiki,
>> some help here would be appreciated.
>
> I could ”probably” take care of that, but I’m far from an expert.
>
>>
>> c. visit hackerspaces in your area and updating their profile or asking
>> them to update their profile accordingly - think of this a human
>> verification to make sure they are still active and run by people (as
>> opposed to corporate bots)
>>
>> I can do this for Netherlands and dutch speaking part of
>> Belgium. Other places if I can manage contact them by internet.  I
>> notice for the Dutch hackerspace there are 27 listed, but 13 are
>> 'real' hacerspaces. The remaining are FabLabs, (commercial)
>> makerspaces or just group of friends. Is there a easy way to
>> difference between these groups? There is a [[Category:FabLab]] but
>> as far i can see you cant edit this with the form (and not every
>> fablab use this)
>
> I’d really not want to start a discussion here what’s a hackerspace
> and what’s not, let’s just get the open/closed status updated, we can
> focus on the discussion on what constitutes a hackerspace later 😊
> Maybe if a space self-identifies as a FabLab in his homepage, we could
> add it in the FabLab category, so we can decide what to to with them
> later on.

I agree with that approach.  Even more so, can we add a category to tag
accelerators/innovationhubs/techshops, etc.?  Maybe "Other"?

ps: having written/organised quite some research over different
categories of Shared Machine Shops, i am happy to look into the
categorisation problem later on.
Maxigas, this would be a great push for this effort!!
One thing that comes to mind is the difference of Categories as rather free assigning of attributes (this is also the Semantic Wiki understanding, see list at [1]), vs a more taxonomic approach, that might be called "Classes". With the first, you may add as many as you want, with none excluding the other, at least formally. For the second, it's like in Biology - something is either/or an insect, mammal, ... (but has to be be something).
I think your work is more taxonomical?
In general, I believe that so we may start new organizations that fit new realities, and to maintain the momentum of existing spaces while pushing them into growth rather leaving them to recession - it must be useful to develop our common vocabularies. Otherwise it is, for all of us in the roles of space members, planners, etc., more difficult to have grounded aspirations, and debates with each other.

Best
David/dcht00 from totalism.org hackbase [2]


 

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